talk up tuesday April 5, 2016 clothing optional or clothes free first time

talk up tuesday April 5, 2016 clothing optional or clothes free how would you feel most comfortable your first time vision a naturist/nudist venue

Welcome to the debut of talk up Tuesday. Share your opinion, your voice, your thoughts on the topic of the week. This week’s question came from a response on Twitter to a tweet made during last week’s live broadcast. Host EarlD suggested some people might be more comfortable on a first time visit to a naturist/nudist venue if it were clothing optional instead of clothes free. The very specific quote drew very generalized response to in the words of one Twitter give the “other side”. We think there is only one side that of the person who is testing the waters for the first time. That do you think?

Talk up would you be most comfortable your first time at a distance/naturist venue if it was clothing optional or clothes free. Do you think your friends or family who are no naturist/nudists or clothes free be more comfortable first time at clothes free or clothing optional venue?

Remember you can add an audio reply, take the survey, add a comment or all of the above. We ask that you keep responses on subject and disagree without being disagreeable. Talk up!

Creating a consent culture

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We believe this is a critical issue related to the clothes free living community. A person’s clothes or lack of clothes is not permission to sexually assault. So we are reposting/reblogging in support

Twelve myths about naturism nudism and clothes free living

A conversation on twitter got me in a myth busting mood. so here are twelve mythbuster about naturism nudism and clothes free living.

  1. Naturism/nudism is just getting naked
  2. Naturist/nudist are asexual prudes
  3. Real naturist/nudists post naked photos online
  4. Naturists/nudists are perverts, and sex fiends
  5. Real Naturist/nudists are clothes free 24/7
  6. Naturists/nudists are a bunch of old hippies 
  7. Naturists/nudists are all white or of European decent
  8. Naturists/nudists are young bohemian slackers
  9. Naturists/nudists are all rich
  10. Naturists/nudists stay to themselves are resorts and camps
  11. Naturists/nudists remove all their pubic hair 
  12. All naturist/nudists are alike

Do you have any naturist, nudist or clothes free myths you want to bust add them in the comment below. 

recent conversations with women in my life

 The more I talk with women in my world about clothes free life, the more I learn that many of them already spend much of their time clothes free, if anything at home.

These conversations made me think that when we talk about causes and movements and so forth, we can’t just say that only people who openly shout about their naturist or clothes free lives count. I have seen that nature of commentary quite often, and it is wonderful if that is true to a person and works for them and others in their environment.

At the same time, that is not necessarily how all people engage their lives generally (not just with regard to clothes freedom). What I am actually finding, particularly in my connections with the women in my life, is that it is less about shouting anything from the rooftops to the infinite public, and more about opening up in intimate one-on-one conversations. 

Recently I opened up to a new friend about my clothes free life. As I shared with her in the conversation, she opened up and told me that she spends as much time as possible naked at home. She does have a family, and random people from her life come over a lot, in which case she chooses to be clothed. But, when all of the drama of the day is done, she relaxes clothes free. She also told me that she learned this from her grandmother, who, for as long as she has known her, has always stripped down to be in the comfort of her own body the minute she’d arrive home. The more she and I talk, the more excitement she exudes (you should see her face light up, my goodness) regarding her choice to be clothes free for the sake of being comfortable and “at home.”

I mention this, because, when I first started my clothes free life back in 2014, so many people kept pushing the idea that “you gotta shout it out loud and tell everyone and be naked all the time and not care what anyone says or thinks or any possible repercussions.” Again, that is wonderful if it works for a particular person, given their personality and situation. However, for some, aside from any work or cultural / political / religious / family factors that might exist, that kind of “out there to the random public” is actually not organic to how they engage anything in life. They’re just not the kind of shout it from the rooftop kind of folks. They don’t live on Twitter. They don’t use Wordpress. They might not really be active on Facebook. But when talking one on one, that’s when they open up and share. Their “social” expression is in a very small environment of trust.

I want to be clear that this is not meant to apply to or speak for all women nor is it something unique to women (or those who choose to identify as such). I know men who have similar tendencies. Indeed, we are all unique human beings with a variety of personalities, situations, histories, tendencies and so forth that are constantly in flux. But, given that the question of “how to get women more involved in naturism” comes up often, this reflection on my recent interactions with women in my life arose, and I wanted to add it to the conversation. It has been these one-on-one dynamics that have facilitated them opening up and sharing their clothes free lives with me and, in the process, cultivating what appears to be a deeper appreciation and enthusiasm for their own clothes free life as a result of talking about it in a one-on-one conversation.

Why Nudity is Required, at Bare Oaks Family Naturist Park

Why Nudity is Required at Bare Oaks Family Naturist Park?

People often ask why, if naturists are so tolerant of others, Bare Oaks does not allow people to remain clothed if they so desire. (When the environment permits, of course!) On the surface, this call for tolerance seems very logical. That and an aspiration to be more inclusive have been the drivers of the clothing-optional movement in recent decades.

It would be great if we lived in a utopia where nobody cares what we wear and we could be nude anywhere we desired. That may be possible some day. But in our world it is impossible, because of constant social pressure which fosters an incredible amount of body shame and obsession with clothing. These messages are deeply embedded in most people since childhood, and reinforced constantly through the way our world is built and the reactions of others. Most people’s fear of nudity and their body is so deeply ingrained in their psyche that it has become subconscious, instinctual, and emotional.

There are many variations of clothing-optional around the world. They generally don’t work, because they don’t operate independently from the rest of the world. Naturist places are a subset of society, not a truly independent culture. Since the pressures of the textile world are ever-present in naturism, we must apply an equal, balancing pressure in naturist clubs to maintain naturist values.

Source : Bare Oaks Naturist Park FaceBook

Male Nudity in Public

Male Nudity in Public

I’m ashamed to say that it wasn’t until about a year ago that I truly began to question how problematic my getting naked in public actually was. I’ve always found it a little strange when women streaked (though I never bothered to interrogate deeply why). I generally just hated the way that many men took it as an opportunity to “ogle some boobies,” and I felt a paternalistic desire to “protect” the women from the male gaze. Plus, it was never quite as “funny.”


no shame

afro sitting


By Andrea Chapin Ferris

In our modern world, a degree

of prudence is, of course, necessary to prevent social awkwardness. There’s a time and a place

for all things personal, or that

which society has deemed to be,

well, private. Discretion will always be a key factor in what we

call civilized society.

That being said, I think nudity

gets a bad rap.

Now, before everyone starts writing a fuming

letter to the editor, let me clarify. It’s not merely nudity that I think needs discussion or even

understanding, it’s the candidness and nature

it represents. I’m not talking about Playboy’s

idea of nudity or the kind of nakedness associated with The People’s Park; rather, the media

obsessions, cultural barriers and social taboos of


Any form of nudity in American media is inevitably perverted: a quick browse through even

the most unassuming magazine rack or just about

any Google search will prove this to pretty much

anyone. This is not the nature of the beast—it’s

an artifi cial product of our culture. For whatever reason, nudity in any form is automatically

deemed perverse or pornographic instead of,

well, the natural state that it is.

From “magic squares” blurring bare breasts

on Jerry Springer to deviant rags like Hustler,

we give and get the message that nakedness is

perverse, uncultured and unacceptable.

At the mere mention of Janet Jackson, millions of Americans recall the Nipplegate scandal.

A quick fl ash of boob proved to be the undoing

of Jackson’s decades-long career. Just as she will

forever fi eld grief for a moment of exposure, so

too will even the most discreet of mothers trying to breastfeed their children. The simple act

of feeding a child has fallen victim to this disease

of desecration. It has gone beyond the matter of

just trying to reach a level of common decency;

the distortion of nudity is a complete disregard

of mother and child’s nature to proliferate an arbitrary, contrived ideal.

I say let Janet and breastfeeding mothers be:

be it by mistake or by nature, a little skin never

hurt anyone.

By that same token, distortion of our nature is

universally hurtful. Our stigma is both self-perpetuating and self-destructive. On one hand, the

airbrushed, adulterated images we do receive

from the media give the impression that our

fl aws are abnormal. That, in turn, makes everyone cover up in embarrassment of the truth of

our bodies. Nudity is relegated to society’s fi lthy

gutter and makes everyone feel the worse for it.

Across the world, it’s been shown that it

doesn’t have to be this way. European television

and print shows unabashed male and female nudity for something as simple as a soap commercial. Classic National Geographic photos portray

bare-breasted women of Africa in a matter that

is routine, frank and objective. Nearly 99 percent

of mothers in Norway breastfeed in public without fi elding any grief. Topless beaches are commonplace in Europe and infamous in the United

States. When it comes to accepting the human

body, America is the prude of the world. What’s

so different about us?

There’s nothing different. From state to country to continent, this is our common denominator: the human skin. We can’t forget that. Why

forgo dignity and nature in trying to disregard it?

Trying to make nudity into the societal scourge

that it is now is like trying to pervert blinking.

It’s simply a part of us; it’s not shameful and it’s a

ridiculous thing to emphasize as degenerate.

It’s time to re-examine what it is we think

must be covered up. It’s time to rethink the social shame of nudity: the only thing that deserves shame is the bastardization of skin itself.

My defense of the birthday suit doesn’t call for

a nudist’s revolution any more than a lobbyist’s

support of change calls for anarchy. Like I said

before, some degree of social standards make

for a livable society, but there is a point at which

those standards become absurd.

In seeking comfort through prudence, Americans have undermined themselves by creating

more shame and embarrassment than we sought

to prevent.